8/3/2023 0 Comments Stun spore worse thunder wave![]() I'll be honest, I hate the accuracy drop in Thunder Wave (with the nerf to 1/2 speed not 1/4 and electric immunity from gen 6, it feels unnecessary), but it's definitely still a top tier move in doubles, if only for the swagger shenanigans with thundurus and the fact that a lot of Pokemon don't have consistent ways to boost their own speed. The fact that tr is 5 turns instead of 4 makes it much better because of the double protect. Now Turn 2, assuming no protects turn 1 (and since fake out has been nerfed by said psychic terrain, more likely than ever), your opponent can double protect, turn 3 bulk out an attack, turn 4 double protect and turn 5 outspeed again.Ĭontrast with thunder wave - you go for a thunder wave and 90% of the time, at least one Pokemon is vulnerable even when it tries to protect and you don't open up as much vulnerabilities as tailwind. Let's leave aside priority for a second, since psychic terrain exists and a pokemon that summons psychic terrain on entry will also exist (probably). Like consider turn 1 you rock slide and tailwind or fake out and tailwind or Tbolt and tailwind. Mods may remove posts at their discretion.Ĭlick Here for All Links and Subs! Click Here to See the Wiki! Daily Post Schedule Day Cannot involve the phrase "How does this affect the meta?" or similar.User-created Competitive Pokemon memes can be posted directly to the sub on Sundays.Theorymon can be posted directly to the sub on Thursdays.Small, simple questions go in the stickied Q&A threads.Some posts are only allowed on certain days or in certain places.Leaks or information from content that isn't officially released by GameFreak, TPCi, or from the game in at least one region, are banned outside of megathreads.No Spoilers or Leaks outside of Megathreads.Images or pastes of teams must have the tier in the title and a comment explaining the team, or will be removed.Read this to learn how to write a good Rate My Team Please include descriptions for each team member in Rate My Teams.Memes (Competitive Pokemon memes allowed on Sundays).Want to contribute? Drop it here on Stunfisk! Please read the rules before posting. We encourage original content and questions for all official battle formats. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, articles, analyses, and competitive battling discussion for Pokémon VGC and Smogon. Click here for Pokémon and Message Flair! The answer is to check out the sidebar for links and tools, read our articles, read the RMTs for constructive criticism, participate in existing posts. "I'm a returning player / teach me how to play" belong in Simple Questions. Make sure to check out our wiki for past articles, analyses and more! Don't solicit or give private info, like emails or skype usernames.
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